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OK As per previous post I have now had the above fitted to my 190ps TSI R-Line. This box of tricks claim to up the power to 240+ ps and improve torque to 400nM from 350nM.

On fitting there is one slightly awkward connection which you need to access from underneath the front of the engine for the turbo boost, otherwise it's a simple few minute fit. I opted for the bluetooth controlled unit which you can change settings on the fly via an Android or Apple OS Smartphone. However to use the app you need android version 7 upwards for an Andriod smartphone/tablet, which unfortunately I do not have at present. :plain:

The box comprise of three preset programs and each program has from -3 to +3 (7) settings to suit your driving. I have to as yet experiment with the programs/settings but will update my personal findings for the forum in the near future.

Initially, the box has been set to program 1 +1. I am told that most files are optimised on the zero setting but due to the differences found in sensor tolerances some cars respond better on +1. Anything higher may result in an engine management light, but there again may not. It is purely down to sensor tolerances, and in some cases fuel quality and ambient air temps can affect things. This program/setting seems to mainly improve performance at the higher rev range and the engine pulls strongly at around 3000-3500rpm. Program 2/3 apparently is more aggressive for power at lower revs.....Watch this space :devil:
 

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Sounds a bit more complicated then what I'm willing to mess with in a car, but do lest us know how the other programs feel to you. From the looks of it, the tune is meeting your needs for more pull at higher revs, though 3000-3500rpm is more midrange is it not?
 

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Are you not concerned about warranty implications? The latest VW ECU systems can detect these addon systems apparently. Even if you remove them for servicing.
I hope you also tell your insurance company. Remember you may not be in a position to remove after an accident.
I had a DTUK tuning box and pedal box on my Diesel Octavia VRS and there was a noticeable improvement in response and and small improvement in fuel economy. I think the pedal box did more for improving the 'feel' of the car.
I've yet to check on the Arteon but the Skoda Superb has a soft throttle response set in the ECU. Using VCDS/OBDEleven its possible to set it to 'Audi' which makes the superb much more responsive.
 

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Are you not concerned about warranty implications? The latest VW ECU systems can detect these addon systems apparently. Even if you remove them for servicing.

Are you sure about your statement? The tuning box is not reflashing the ECU so how can VW detect it once removed? DTUK claim that it is totally undetectable when removed.

I hope you also tell your insurance company. Remember you may not be in a position to remove after an accident.
I had a DTUK tuning box and pedal box on my Diesel Octavia VRS and there was a noticeable improvement in response and and small improvement in fuel economy. I think the pedal box did more for improving the 'feel' of the car.
I've yet to check on the Arteon but the Skoda Superb has a soft throttle response set in the ECU. Using VCDS/OBDEleven its possible to set it to 'Audi' which makes the superb much more responsive.
That is interesting! I have used Vagcom (VCDS) with great success a number of years ago. Even changed my ex Singapore Ford Galaxy's speedometer reading from km to miles and reset the autobox when all gears would not upchange. However unless you confidently know what you are doing it can however be a risky subject...it only takes one change of a value in a novices hands! :eek: It would be nice to be able to deactivate the stop/start function other than having to manually switch it off every time when switching on the engine :rolleyes:

To date I have also tried program 2 with setting +2 and no management light:smile: This is a great improvement. Much better performance all round and when driving conservatively I'm sure mpg has improved. It will be interesting to see if +3 setting will induce a magagement light :surprise::grin: I have just borrowed my younger son's ipad and have installed the bluetooth app so I should b able to carry out some further testing shortly and will update.:wink:
 

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Sounds a bit more complicated then what I'm willing to mess with in a car, but do lest us know how the other programs feel to you. From the looks of it, the tune is meeting your needs for more pull at higher revs, though 3000-3500rpm is more midrange is it not?
There is just plugin cables to connect. The only cable which takes a few mintes to connect is, as I said, the turbo boost one, which needs to be accessed under the car unless you have tiny hands and long arms to reach the connector from the top side of the engine! I refer to 3-3.5k rpm as when it STARTS to be more pronounced.
 

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I read the warning about the newer ECUs detecting if boxes have been fitted on one of the VW forums. I think it was because the ECU detects something out of normal range as the box fools the engine management. Interestingly remaps don't show up as everything is in the remapped range. I'll see if I can find the post and put a link here.
VCDS can be dangerous but there's a lot you can do without causing problem and as long as you take a scan of the car before you can always put it back.
We need the Arteon scanned by Ross-Tech to make sure the software is calibrated correctly and that won't happen until Arteons sold in US or an EU owner sends it. As the Arteon is such low volume that may never happen. I have a friend with VCDS who is a guru on Skodas and he is going to look at mine in the next month if I ever manage to sort a towbar.
I hope the car doesn't detect the box as the DTUK system is very good. Not sure if as advantageous on a TSi though.
 

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I read the warning about the newer ECUs detecting if boxes have been fitted on one of the VW forums. I think it was because the ECU detects something out of normal range as the box fools the engine management. Interestingly remaps don't show up as everything is in the remapped range. I'll see if I can find the post and put a link here.
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I await with interest and will ask DTUK of any reprecussions? As you said it's unlikely for Ross Tech to get hold of an Arteon, I just can't believe how rare the Arteon is on UK roads. To date I have never seen another Arteon on the road since placing an order in October of last year. (Then again my wife tells me that I should get out more often to wine and dine her :grin:) I've had the odd rep. in the new fronted Passat, thrashing the balls out of it, in my rear view mirror which can be misleading, but as I said never an Arteon?
I personally prefer my Arteon to my brothers A5 Sportback, which he has now just sold, but his was a four year old model so I can't fairly compare both new marques.
 

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Well I have finally at last sucessfully logged into the forum! . Have had to frequent the Arteon facebook group until now !!

Some findings on the DTUK box:

Initial setup with program 1 + 1 = Improved upper end performance but not any real improvement at lower revs.
Program 2+1 = Much better accelereation at low revs.
Program 2+2 = Even better still and am at last happy!
Program 2+3 = Was somewhat concerned and warned about trying +3 incase the ECU would subitt to the setting and through a fit by switching on an engine warning light, but this never happened. Just numbed the performance from setting 2
Program 3+2 = As yet to notice any difference from 2+2...watch this space!

Still to pair up bluetooth device with the box so as I can change settings on the fly and experiment..

Improved fuel consumption? Not sure really. I did however manage 55.5mpg on a 159 mile (brain numbing LOL!) journey with program 2+1 recently...however now having clocked up 5k mileage I feel the fuel consumption is progessively improving in general and the box didn't necssarily contribute.

With the 'Performance monitor' graphics onscreen I find I can hit 2.1bar! Can someone please check for me what the bar reading is on a standard 2.0 TSi 190? I took my son's Focus ST out over the weekend which is safely mapped at only 1.2bar but has been dyno'd to 300bhp and 370ft lb!......and yes it is faster than the Arteon. LOL
 

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Hi. Sorry i was meaning to post earlier!!! First off congrats on probably being one of the first Joe Bloggs to have a tune!! So went out today in my TSI 190 and the strange thing is i am hitting 33.6 PSI of boost..........its more than you are seeing so not sure how it can possibly be making more power......... More fuel, more air = more power!!!
 
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